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JimZipCode's avatar

Bold.

It's clear that Young had the "stronger arm, better wheels" that you point out. Plus he (eventually) was crazy accurate. Walsh saw Young from a distance and recognized a prototype; brought him in to surpass Montana. In some ways he did. Walsh's scouting eye was damn good.

It's also striking that Young put together his HOF stats in a career where he didn't become the starter until he was already 30. Past his athletic prime! Imagine if he'd gone from BYU straight to San Francisco, with none of the nonsense in between. He'd own ALL the records.

It's just hard to push Young *all the way* past Montana without adding asterisks. My two sticking points are:

1. Montana gets extra credit for inventing the position of "QB in the Bill Walsh Offense". (Yeah yeah, Virgil Carter, whatever.) You made some of this point with your discussion of the difference between "influence" and "greatness"; but the other part of it is that Young to some extent was "standing on the shoulders of giants." He walked a trail that Montana had blazed.

(Montana also held off Young for a couplefew extra years, when it was pretty obvious Walsh wanted to give the starting job to Young.)

2. Montana had that "unflappable" thing that Tom Brady later showcased. "Coolness" under pressure, but that understates it: more like a psychotic imperviousness to the pressure of big moments. By contrast, Steve Young was more of a normal human being; flappable. Not a "choker" by any means, but with a normal human response to big moments.

That said: the '94 Niners squad with which Young got the monkey off his back – I'd never seen a *good* team (championship caliber) that was MORE dependent on its quarterback for every yard of its offense, pass game and run game. It was striking how Young-centric that offense was. Not until Lamar ~20 years later have we seen a high-power offense where the QB makes absolutely everything go. (Er: maybe I forgot Cam Newton.) Even Mahomes occasionally hands off with no option threat and no backside defenders frozen in place, afraid to believe the handoff.

(BTW Young is my most-frequent comp for Lamar.)

If I had to pick one of these guys to power my rebuilding franchise for the next dozen years, it would be Young. But, if I had to win ONE GAME – like a lot of guys who watched football in the 80s, it would be very hard for me not to pick Montana.

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Joey Bagadonuts's avatar

Joe Montana’s name alone earned him an extra ten Legend Points.

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