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Mike Tanier's avatar

Just want to say Thank You to everyone who subscribed as a result of this post. And, of course, to all subscribers! I am really amped for the draft now!

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Willard's avatar

Egads! No 75,000 prospect list! We’ve been had, swindled, and downright bamboozled!

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Lost Ti-Cats Fan's avatar

I clicked on this article with excitement, thinking maybe possibly finally I had been recognized on someone's prospect list, even if it was in the deep 60-thousands and requiring an extinction level cataclysm to strike between now and Saturday before I might hear my name called.

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Tracer Bullet's avatar

By the time the draft gets here, I am always more than ready for the draft to be here. No more lies or bullshit; it's time to, literally, put cards on the table. After tomorrow I can start convincing myself that the Eagles have drafted 7-9 future Hall of Famers while the rest of the division have all drafted thumbless mooks who can't get dressed without help and are confused by ketchup

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Jeff's avatar

I subscribed as I was familiar with your work at FO and that I felt sorry for you as it seems you can't hold down a job all that well. Anyway, I feel my $$$ were damn well spent. Excellent content to date and if my subscription helps defray whiskey expenses, all the better. Enjoy your day.

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Josh R's avatar

In the current environment, no sports writer (journalist in general) can hold down a job all that well. ;)

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GT Counter's avatar

https://defector.com/three-newsrooms-imploded-around-me-in-under-a-year

It was defector not ftn. But it explains the state of the sport journalism industry.

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GT Counter's avatar

He wrote a piece for FTN. FO and Messenger and Sportsonearth all died. Its not like he was fired from Companies that replaced him or something. Sports journalism isnt profitable enough, ESPN fired most of their writers.

People want short clickbait not analysis. Preferably a video.

Theres so many dead football analysis sites i liked for analysis that are zombies. Insidethepylon, weeklyspiral, profootball post.

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Mike Tanier's avatar

I welcome your support and your pity! Thanks everyone.

But I think lots of "people" want analysis! The system is rigged to make it hard to find, so they settle for clickbait.

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GT Counter's avatar

Over the years I learned talking to most fans when u mention cover 1 or anything else they don't know about just say Yer WRONG; instead of asking what that means. If any analysis it has to say "(my team) are winning the SB heres why) but they wont finish reading or watching the viseo.

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GT Counter's avatar

I still enjoyed mikes draft coverage he hated writing. Im old and wise enough to know ill never see 2/3 of 224 kids on Sundays. It's still fun reading feb-may esp with all the gags thrown. 'Undersized corner who cant tackle a middle school shoplifter in a parking lot. '

The report cards are must read as well as FO putting all the media draft grades in one place i hope will be on FTN. I love how one team can get an A, 2 Cs and a B.

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Bryan Knowles's avatar

I believe that yes, Cale Clinton will be writing up the draft grade report card for FTN this year!

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Mike Tanier's avatar

A tradition unlike any other.

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Willard's avatar

The only way you can get an A, 2 Bs, and a C is if the test is for hepatitis.

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Jeff's avatar

Guys, it was a JOKE. I am fully aware of the state journalism is in today.

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Josh R's avatar

I understood. That’s why I added a winky at the end of my statement. :)

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Ken Raining's avatar

I think you're right on about the problem with draft coverage. I made a concerted effort to not click, read, or listen to any mock drafts, and once you do that you find the actual coverage is...sparse. It's especially bad this year because the coverage is COMPLETELY dominated by the quarterbacks and what order they will go, who might move up for them, all that. And it's pretty much just the same speculation churned out by different opinion havers. My biggest takeaway is that the draft needs to be moved up by a few week; the lag between free agency peaking and the draft is painful.

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Josh R's avatar

Wasn’t Eastwestern Michigan the team in Coach? Or were they in Minnesota? Or One of the other northerly M states. Of which I just realized there are a lot.

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Jerry Wolper's avatar

Minnesota State. (Since you asked.)

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Josh R's avatar

I was close. Ish. ;)

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Big Richie's avatar

Is it just me, or is that Discord link also a travesty for anyone else? The bar on the right won't let me stroll down.

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Matt M's avatar

I appreciate the meta commentary on how the content sausage gets made.

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Joey_Sucks (I'm Joey)'s avatar

Excuse me! Mr Klassen is not a YouTuber! And we should all be more worried about how he's evaluated Drake Maye.

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Mike Tanier's avatar

Not to call anyone out, but Derrik never watched She-Hulk.

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Josh R's avatar

Which is too bad. Very underrated show. The most comic book accurate show in the MCU

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Michael Strawn's avatar

Mike, I'll be honest, I didn't know there was a premium subscription, as opposed to a standard. I also don't know if I'm a premium subscriber or not. When I got to the Substack home for Too Deep it doesn't indicate if I'm Premium or not. And when I click to change my subscription, there's no premium option.

It's all a bit confusing.

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Mike Tanier's avatar

Premium is paid, man. You are premium!

I hate using the term "paid."

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Michael Strawn's avatar

I got it now; thanks.

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Joey_Sucks (I'm Joey)'s avatar

I think the terminology comes from sub stack (or maybe comes from th broader newsletter industry). They generally seem to have three segments: free for all, free for subscribers (which means signing up for the newsletter), and 'premium' (aka paid) only. I'm sure thats not true for all newsletters, but I'm on 6 at this point, and they all have this model.

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Kevin Langstaff's avatar

You’re a premium subscriber if you’re a paid subscriber. Mike offers up some content for free; for subscribers who don’t/can’t pay to support his whiskey and kids-in-college habits.

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